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Message boards : Generalized Fermat Prime Search : cpuGFN16_mt v4.01 -- crossing the b limit

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Message 158134 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 15:14:09 UTC

Why was cpuGFN16_mt moved to genefer22 yesterday?
The project is already at the b limit of genefer22's CPU transform.

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Message 158137 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 15:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 158134.

Close to the limit, not at the limit. Round-off error is 0.375, the limit is 0.5.
There is no difference between v3.21 and v4.01 on CPU.
Now the limit on GPU is 2,000,000,000.

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,301,300)Cullen LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,083,819)ESP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,566,123)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (29,925,486)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,122,627)PSP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,644,403)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (47,831,464)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,049,330)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,026,380)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (39,034,501)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,836,816)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,331,175)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,205,264)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (526,968,204)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (57,333,783)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (367,271,097)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,532,000)
Message 158139 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 15:49:12 UTC - in response to Message 158137.

Yves Gallot wrote:
There is no difference between v3.21 and v4.01 on CPU.

Thanks; this bit of info was obscure (to me at least) until now.

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,301,300)Cullen LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,083,819)ESP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,566,123)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (29,925,486)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,122,627)PSP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,644,403)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (47,831,464)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,049,330)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,026,380)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (39,034,501)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,836,816)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,331,175)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,205,264)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (526,968,204)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (57,333,783)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (367,271,097)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,532,000)
Message 158143 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 20:06:31 UTC

Related question:
Are the transforms which are called "sse2, sse4, avx, fma" in genefer22 v22.11.04 perhaps the same as the ones which are called "sse2i, sse4i, avxi, fmai" in genefer v3.4?

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Message 158149 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 23:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 158143.

Are the transforms which are called "sse2, sse4, avx, fma" in genefer22 v22.11.04 perhaps the same as the ones which are called "sse2i, sse4i, avxi, fmai" in genefer v3.4?

For all GFN except for GFN-22 ("sse2, sse4, avx, fma, 512" in genefer v3.4).

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Message 158151 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 23:23:04 UTC - in response to Message 158149.

So fast check is enabled fro GFN16 also?
If this is true then you can update front page...

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,638,389)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,946)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,150,009)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,049,916)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,203,327)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,055,931)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,361,962)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,308,522)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,390,624)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,656,388)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,888,492)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,832,347)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (108,153,926)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (88,580,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 158155 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 23:51:17 UTC - in response to Message 158151.

So fast check is enabled fro GFN16 also?
If this is true then you can update front page...


I don't believe GFN-16 is doing fast checking, especially since one of its apps isn't updated yet and hence can not do fast double checking. I'm trying to get a definitive answer on this from stream.
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Message 158156 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 23:54:47 UTC - in response to Message 158155.
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First task I found....

<core_client_version>7.14.2</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
genefer22g version 22.11.4 (win64, gcc-12.2.0, boinc-7.20.2)
Copyright (c) 2022, Yves Gallot
genefer22 is free source code, under the MIT license.

Command line: '-boinc -c -n 16 -b 175xxxxxxx -f gproof'

Running on device 'Quadro P620', vendor 'NVIDIA Corporation', version 'OpenCL 3.0 CUDA', driver '472.12', data size: 1.5 MB.
175xxxxxxx^{2^16} + 1 is checked, ckey = 0B350xxxxxxx, time = 00:00:45.
01:47:44 (30660): called boinc_finish(0)

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Also few other tasks of new GFN16 on another thread - seg fault on ryzen...
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Message 158158 - Posted: 29 Nov 2022 | 3:28:27 UTC - in response to Message 158155.

So fast check is enabled fro GFN16 also?
If this is true then you can update front page...


I don't believe GFN-16 is doing fast checking, especially since one of its apps isn't updated yet and hence can not do fast double checking. I'm trying to get a definitive answer on this from stream.

I’m not sure how exactly it is working, but the new app appears to be working well enough for most of us from the steady stream of double check tasks I am getting on GFN16.
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Message 158159 - Posted: 29 Nov 2022 | 3:34:36 UTC - in response to Message 158158.

So fast check is enabled fro GFN16 also?
If this is true then you can update front page...


I don't believe GFN-16 is doing fast checking, especially since one of its apps isn't updated yet and hence can not do fast double checking. I'm trying to get a definitive answer on this from stream.

I’m not sure how exactly it is working, but the new app appears to be working well enough for most of us from the steady stream of double check tasks I am getting on GFN16.


Well, it's not going to work on Mac CPUs, since the installed app is incapable of running these WUs. I'm pretty sure that any Mac CPUs will therefore only get assigned old non-fast-DC workunits. (It's not possible to mix old and new style tasks in the same WU.)

It's probably just an oversight and the missing v4 app will probably be installed tomorrow.
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Message 158164 - Posted: 29 Nov 2022 | 9:02:19 UTC - in response to Message 158149.
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Yves Gallot wrote:
xii5ku wrote:
Are the transforms which are called "sse2, sse4, avx, fma" in genefer22 v22.11.04 perhaps the same as the ones which are called "sse2i, sse4i, avxi, fmai" in genefer v3.4?

For all GFN except for GFN-22 ("sse2, sse4, avx, fma, 512" in genefer v3.4).

Good. If I read the output correctly, genefer v3.4 reports a b limit at ≈ 200…240M (avxi) or ≈ 180…230M (sse2i) at n = 16. (More like the upper bound of those, given an error limit of 0.5.) So there is still a way to go until GFN-16 reaches cpuGFN's b limit.

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Message 158166 - Posted: 29 Nov 2022 | 9:23:12 UTC

All projects except GFN-15 are on fast DC / apps 4.01

Converting GFN-15 will be tricky. GFN-15 is far above of CPU limit, it mean that server (which can use only CPU) have to use very slow special integer transform to create a certificate. For all other projects certificate can be generated in 0.5-1 sec. GFN-15 required up to 3 seconds in my tests. Considering high amount of tasks crunched every day even under normal rates, it'll create unacceptable load on server. Anyway, we have to deal with this problem somehow because old app will stop working at 400M quite soon. But later.

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