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DYFL v4.01
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xii5kuSend message
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The home page https://www.primegrid.com/ says "CPU^(MT-R F) GPU" at DYFL.
Yet according to https://www.primegrid.com/apps.php,
– there is no cpuGFNEXTREME,
– whereas OCLcudaGFNEXTREME and openclatiGFNEXTREME are now at v4.01, hence should have fast proofs enabled now. Therefore the home page should show GPU^F instead of just GPU.
Just a temporary glitch? | |
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xii5kuSend message
Joined: 17 Dec 16 Posts: 96 ID: 476505 Credit: 1,630,752,495 RAC: 2,229,401
                  
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PS,
genefer22's data allocation for DYFL workunits would be >81 MBytes according to a quick spot check. That looks like something at which a Ryzen 7 5800X3D or a Milan-X would be useful at, with 96 MBytes last-level cache per core complex. | |
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Michael Goetz Volunteer moderator Project administrator
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The home page https://www.primegrid.com/ says "CPU^(MT-R F) GPU" at DYFL.
Yet according to https://www.primegrid.com/apps.php,
– there is no cpuGFNEXTREME,
– whereas OCLcudaGFNEXTREME and openclatiGFNEXTREME are now at v4.01, hence should have fast proofs enabled now. Therefore the home page should show GPU^F instead of just GPU.
Just a temporary glitch?
My mistake. The apps page is correct. There is no DYFL CPU app. I will correct this later in the day.
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Dave  Send message
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& there's us getting all excited. | |
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but the cpu application for DYFL is under testing?... ) | |
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Michael Goetz Volunteer moderator Project administrator
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but the cpu application for DYFL is under testing?... )
No.
It will be too slow, and we're not going to enable it.
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but the cpu application for DYFL is under testing?... )
No.
It will be too slow, and we're not going to enable it.
Is it the same case for GFN 22 CPU? Will it stay enabled?
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streamVolunteer moderator Project administrator Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message
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but the cpu application for DYFL is under testing?... )
No.
It will be too slow, and we're not going to enable it.
Is it the same case for GFN 22 CPU? Will it stay enabled?
GFN-22 works with smaller numbers, fast algorithm exist for this range. GPN-22 CPU will stay enabled almost until the end of project (until it reaches DYFL).
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Can someone provide sample run times before and after V4.01 for DYFL for a GTX 10xxx series card? | |
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Like Stream says, CPU apps can take advantage of other, more efficient "transforms" when the value of b is low. This is the case for regular (non-DYFL) GFN-22 where b is currently under 250'000. So, when you take into account that GFN-22 candidate numbers are roughly twice as long (in digit count) as GFN-21 candidates, CPUs do well on GFN-22 regular. /JeppeSN | |
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Like Stream says, CPU apps can take advantage of other, more efficient "transforms" when the value of b is low. This is the case for regular (non-DYFL) GFN-22 where b is currently under 250'000. So, when you take into account that GFN-22 candidate numbers are roughly twice as long (in digit count) as GFN-21 candidates, CPUs do well on GFN-22 regular. /JeppeSN
These tables will illustrate this:
Ryzen 9 7950X, 8 threads, 2 tasks
GFN sec credit credit/sec
21 80000/2 161000 4.0
22 145000/2 735000 10.1 RTX 3070 Ti
GFN sec credit credit/sec
21 20000 161000 8.0
22 71000 735000 10.3
DYFL 79000 954000 12.1
GPU performance of DYFL is better because of long job credit bonus. On the other hand, the likelihood of success is greater for GFN-21 then the choice depends on your goal.
CPU performance of GFN-22 is much better because of a more efficient transform. However, 12M or 22M digits is a matter of choice. | |
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