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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (45,879,283)Cullen LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,083,819)ESP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,566,123)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (29,925,486)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,122,627)PSP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,644,403)SoB LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (84,302,910)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,049,330)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,107,362)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (39,034,501)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,836,816)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,331,175)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (119,937,346)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,205,264)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (526,968,204)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (118,977,404)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (367,271,153)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,532,000)
Message 158055 - Posted: 26 Nov 2022 | 18:27:17 UTC

The home page https://www.primegrid.com/ says "CPU^(MT-R F) GPU" at DYFL.
Yet according to https://www.primegrid.com/apps.php,
– there is no cpuGFNEXTREME,
– whereas OCLcudaGFNEXTREME and openclatiGFNEXTREME are now at v4.01, hence should have fast proofs enabled now. Therefore the home page should show GPU^F instead of just GPU.

Just a temporary glitch?

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (45,879,283)Cullen LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,083,819)ESP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,566,123)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (29,925,486)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,122,627)PSP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,644,403)SoB LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (84,302,910)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,049,330)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,107,362)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (39,034,501)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,836,816)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,331,175)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (119,937,346)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,205,264)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (526,968,204)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (118,977,404)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (367,271,153)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,532,000)
Message 158057 - Posted: 26 Nov 2022 | 21:43:49 UTC

PS,
genefer22's data allocation for DYFL workunits would be >81 MBytes according to a quick spot check. That looks like something at which a Ryzen 7 5800X3D or a Milan-X would be useful at, with 96 MBytes last-level cache per core complex.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,949,793)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,946)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,150,009)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,049,916)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,203,327)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,821,441)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,821,256)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,600,805)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,308,522)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,390,624)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,764,198)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,888,492)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (28,170,298)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (120,616,519)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (88,580,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,196,884)
Message 158083 - Posted: 27 Nov 2022 | 9:46:30 UTC - in response to Message 158055.

The home page https://www.primegrid.com/ says "CPU^(MT-R F) GPU" at DYFL.
Yet according to https://www.primegrid.com/apps.php,
– there is no cpuGFNEXTREME,
– whereas OCLcudaGFNEXTREME and openclatiGFNEXTREME are now at v4.01, hence should have fast proofs enabled now. Therefore the home page should show GPU^F instead of just GPU.

Just a temporary glitch?


My mistake. The apps page is correct. There is no DYFL CPU app. I will correct this later in the day.
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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2023 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 mega prime  in the 2023 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,790,287)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,287,593)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,389,823)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,056,831)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,989,590)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,704,690)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,116,440)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,319,615)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,831,800)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,396,638)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,578,731)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,003,334)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,004,341)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,502)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (444,641,642)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,133)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,970)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (245,211,993)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (240,000,042)WW (retired) Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,100,000,000)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,045,839)
Message 158084 - Posted: 27 Nov 2022 | 11:07:00 UTC - in response to Message 158083.

& there's us getting all excited.

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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (851,409)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (575,959)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (745,447)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (355,202)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,368,943)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,508,919)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (580,770)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (592,697)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,693,080)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (895,219)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (884,104)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,144,242)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (28,536,474)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,209,176)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (803,471,108)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (219,210)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (524,540)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (67,425,111)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (156,806,071)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (99,888,000)
Message 158085 - Posted: 27 Nov 2022 | 11:44:22 UTC

but the cpu application for DYFL is under testing?... )

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,949,793)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,946)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,150,009)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,049,916)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,203,327)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,821,441)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,821,256)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,600,805)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,308,522)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,390,624)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,764,198)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,888,492)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (28,170,298)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (120,616,519)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (88,580,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,196,884)
Message 158089 - Posted: 27 Nov 2022 | 12:37:54 UTC - in response to Message 158085.

but the cpu application for DYFL is under testing?... )


No.

It will be too slow, and we're not going to enable it.
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Message 158109 - Posted: 27 Nov 2022 | 20:05:20 UTC - in response to Message 158089.
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but the cpu application for DYFL is under testing?... )


No.

It will be too slow, and we're not going to enable it.


Is it the same case for GFN 22 CPU? Will it stay enabled?
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Message 158111 - Posted: 27 Nov 2022 | 20:53:46 UTC - in response to Message 158109.

but the cpu application for DYFL is under testing?... )


No.

It will be too slow, and we're not going to enable it.


Is it the same case for GFN 22 CPU? Will it stay enabled?

GFN-22 works with smaller numbers, fast algorithm exist for this range. GPN-22 CPU will stay enabled almost until the end of project (until it reaches DYFL).

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Message 158122 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 7:51:31 UTC

Can someone provide sample run times before and after V4.01 for DYFL for a GTX 10xxx series card?

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Message 158152 - Posted: 28 Nov 2022 | 23:34:20 UTC

Like Stream says, CPU apps can take advantage of other, more efficient "transforms" when the value of b is low. This is the case for regular (non-DYFL) GFN-22 where b is currently under 250'000. So, when you take into account that GFN-22 candidate numbers are roughly twice as long (in digit count) as GFN-21 candidates, CPUs do well on GFN-22 regular. /JeppeSN

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Message 158167 - Posted: 29 Nov 2022 | 9:44:57 UTC - in response to Message 158152.

Like Stream says, CPU apps can take advantage of other, more efficient "transforms" when the value of b is low. This is the case for regular (non-DYFL) GFN-22 where b is currently under 250'000. So, when you take into account that GFN-22 candidate numbers are roughly twice as long (in digit count) as GFN-21 candidates, CPUs do well on GFN-22 regular. /JeppeSN

These tables will illustrate this:

Ryzen 9 7950X, 8 threads, 2 tasks
GFN sec credit credit/sec 21 80000/2 161000 4.0 22 145000/2 735000 10.1
RTX 3070 Ti
GFN sec credit credit/sec 21 20000 161000 8.0 22 71000 735000 10.3 DYFL 79000 954000 12.1

GPU performance of DYFL is better because of long job credit bonus. On the other hand, the likelihood of success is greater for GFN-21 then the choice depends on your goal.
CPU performance of GFN-22 is much better because of a more efficient transform. However, 12M or 22M digits is a matter of choice.

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